tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1694384365798731751.post5520669327888316830..comments2024-02-21T15:59:07.204+00:00Comments on sediment's wargame blog: 21st Panzer Division - Normandy - Kampfgruppe von LuckAndy Canhamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16100637417048895507noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1694384365798731751.post-77978451602428702242013-10-30T14:26:39.669+00:002013-10-30T14:26:39.669+00:00Right I see, I thought you had another TO&E (w...Right I see, I thought you had another TO&E (which wouldn't of surprised me). The stats shouldn't be too hard, both guns have stats already, there's not much armour on them so a save a 6 might be about right and they are quite fast so perhaps a move of 25? <br /><br />One would hope Von Luck did know what he was talking about but it does depend on how soon after the event he wrote things down. I believe there's some details on the 21st Panzers actions on the Sturmpanzer site (see http://www.sturmpanzer.com/Default.aspx?tabindex=5&tabid=613&item=1&sec=3 and scroll down the list) which might help. The documents there are collections of veterans accounts collected by the US military, though useful they do often focus on actions against US troops.<br /><br />I see that you've started quite a lively debate on the baccus forum, decided to stay out of that one myself! <br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />RichardRichard Naylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411439028149060147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1694384365798731751.post-77413689154076595042013-10-30T13:46:47.344+00:002013-10-30T13:46:47.344+00:00I based the organisation on the Fire and Fury web ...I based the organisation on the Fire and Fury web site TO&E - they specify the H39 chassis for the StuG battalion, but I didn't have the models - I'll get some in from H&R with my next purchase - I still need the PAK43/41s as well. All I have to do now is come up with suitable stats for BKCII so I can use them next month. <br /><br />Interestingly the F&F site suggests that the Recce Batt wasn't available on D-day, but the StuG Batt was. Reading Von Luck's "Panzer Commander", he suggests the opposite and that the Recce Batt was there in the evening, but that the StuG Batt didn't appear until much later. I'm guessing he should know, but....!<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />AndyAndy Canhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16100637417048895507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1694384365798731751.post-33770637411634036072013-10-30T13:27:58.860+00:002013-10-30T13:27:58.860+00:00Yes I think digging in with heavy camouflage then ...Yes I think digging in with heavy camouflage then moving at nights the best way to survive. <br /><br />Interestingly I have two different TO&E's for the StuG Abt and both of them are different to each other. They both have Hotchkiss conversions for SPG's (with 75mm or 105mm guns). I'm not sure which, if any, are "right", personally I prefer the H39 conversions but that's just because I like the H&R model.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />RichardRichard Naylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411439028149060147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1694384365798731751.post-1618435503970333682013-10-30T10:05:13.036+00:002013-10-30T10:05:13.036+00:00Thanks Richard. Yes, naval gunfire and aircraft f...Thanks Richard. Yes, naval gunfire and aircraft for the Allies are going to punish any movement within line of sight. Time to dig in on the approaches to Caen and let the 3rd Division try and break through? At least that's what worked best for them on D-day. Cheers<br /><br />AndyAndy Canhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16100637417048895507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1694384365798731751.post-35874067622260960582013-10-30T08:58:12.369+00:002013-10-30T08:58:12.369+00:00It all looks very good Andy. It's not that oft...It all looks very good Andy. It's not that often that you get to see the better part of a division on the table top so I'm it'll look great on the table top (assuming it avoid all the Allied naval gun fire and air support that it!).<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />RichardRichard Naylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411439028149060147noreply@blogger.com